I don't think it's wrong to say but people are free to leave if they so wish /at least it'll clean out the hateful bunch by doing so/. I know some who go on and on for example about everything Saeun does and it's just...irritating after a while. Why constantly blog about your dislike of her when you could be doing something else on your time that's what I've tried asking some people, but they only viewed me as a 'Saeun defender'.
/shakes head/
Although I don't follow SuJu anymore, Sungmin has always seemed like a decent guy to me and very sweet natured. He's not a traitor, he's not a horrible human being just someone who wanted to marry the person he finds is his soulmate what's so 'horrible' about that?
I apologize if I sounded too harsh ^^; I'm just kind of disappointed in how some KPop fans treat an artist if they get married. They have lives to do they not? Don't we all?
Long story short I think some people who actually left are more of fans than some who stayed. Because they recognized that they weren't happy in this environment and moved on, while some who stayed went cuckoo and only talk all day about people they don't know.
(Sorry for the long reply!!)
I see the concept of 'fan' as relative. Especially now with SJ's comeback, I see more and more people pressuring others to vote and stream under the premise that if they don't do so, they're not true fans. So you see, someone who doesn't vote may call themselves a fan while the ones who vote + stream won't see them as actual fans. (I was trying to explain my point of view hahaha back to the main topic) Honestly, if the relationship itself caused the person to give up on the entire group I admit i'd judge the person a little. Members were never (and will never be) ours and it's not our place to believe in such thing. So if someone left because their bias got a girl, or felt 'hurt' because of that..... Yeah I'd think the person has a screw loose. However, if the idol ed up BIG TIME while in a relationship (hence Kim Hyun Joong) then it's a different case entirely (I don't think sungmin ed up not even in the least bit so... Also I'm no way comparing KHJ to Min, KHJ is an and should be in jail). I like Sungmin a lot, I legit think he's a great guy but I also know he's a ball of cheese. He's super mushy with his wife and while I think that's adorable, some people see that as them "shoving their relationship on everyone else" (which I disagree) and that makes some people uncomfortable. While I personally believe he's no monster and neither is his wife, it's not anyone's place to judge other people's points of view. However, the moment someone starts to call him or his wife names and trash talk about the couple, or spread bull without facts about them, then I won't keep my mouth shut because that's not "having an opinion", that's defamation. So if someone leaves the fandom because the couple makes the fandom experience less enjoyable... Well it's their business! It's fine as long as the person doesn't hurt anyone. But staying and sending his wife hate? Now that's /not/ fine.
No one should judge how a fan should behave. People have different reasons to idolize someone. And just admit that we have some fantasies towards our idols. But it is all coming back to what makes you like them, if that reason is gone, you will feel like you're losing a reason to stay. Actually, there are many other reasons to leave fandom too, but that's a different topic.
Just please don't judge someone just because she/he has different point of view. I think what we should be concerned about is the way we express our opinions, I think it is not necessary to be rude or harsh. Attacking someone is not going to win you something.
People change. Circumstances change. Environments change. Responsibilities change. We are continuously growing and moving.
Oh, and you don't have to be upset if some fans are luckier than you or some fans could not fulfil the given standards, idolizing should be something that motivates you, encourages you, helps you to be a better person, makes you feel good, inspires you. We suppose to have fun and not war.
Its not about being a fan but how much you love him that you cant see him with anyone or that you felt betrayed but for me this also isnt a reason to stop being his fan /shrugges/
When i first heard abt it i was like "huh?.... didn't you just announce thst you're dating? And now you are marrying! Wtf?" But even if i protested its not my life to control nor its my position to say 'no dont do that' so i was like "okay ......."
i knew that this day would come but the announcement was stupid cuz it was from her and obviously without discussing it wisely so it turned out as a mess ...
i dont hate sungmin and i don't think i would ever hate him cuz he did nothing wrong by marrying even if he did smth to fans 'like his signature story which im not sure of' nobody is perfect here and he is not an angle thats why i don't find his mistakes are reason to stop being his fan
i just wanted his wife to be someone loveable so he wont suffer and to announce the whole thing in a good way just like what Shindong did before with nary that he made most of elfs like her but yeah ....
When i think about it i pity him more than being angry at him cuz smth important like that didn't turn out as good as it must be cuz of fans' bashing and the mebers anger at him .........
Most of the time i don't think abt his being married at all unless i see smth about her which foesnt happen often so its not that abig deal for me
It depends.
If that idol date a good person with good personality and good heart, and the idol keeping it low bcos he think about the fan's heart instead of putting lime on their wound and the idol didn't bring his personal affair to work then I kinda agree with that words above.
People leave the fandom because they feel betrayed and hurted. Maybe the fan's feeling is too deep, so it's better for them to leave than feeling heartbroken everytime they saw the couple.
We can't judge someone's feeling. I know it's the idol rights to date but fans also has rights to not feeling betrayed/hurted.
If you spent everything like everything for someone you love. And the money (the idol earned from you) is spent by him with another woman and that woman bragging about the things she got from the idol (using the money they earned from you) how did you feel?
HAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAAAAAAA
Again, don't judge people.
Idol can do everything they want and so does fans :D
Why so serious :p
It's because they have almost impossible standard for the idols i think. Maybe they aren't not much of a fans, in contrary, they idolized them too much, it blinded their logic (and heart?).
or maybe they just selfish, childish fans who need to grow up.
what happened with sungmin tested a lot of fans, really. a few left the fandom, although i think most of them have realised they were being childish and returned now. loyalty to a group matters more than being butthurt and jealous. we are called everlasting friends, not potential girlfriends, we support sj as their friends and its dumb to be mad just becuase of someone dating/getting married.
like in real life, if someone had a crush on a friend and then that friend began a relationship with someone else, they wouldn't just stop being friends, right? it seems dumb, but its a similar situation here.
it hurts, yeah of course. but if we really love them then we'll stay, becuase that's what we promised.
My bias has gotten married. I was really sad, upset, and even a bit angry. I cried too but despite the fact that I was hurt I am happy that he has found someone. So I do agree with that statement, because your bias is someone important to you, you would want to see them happy just like any person you know in real life.
I know. I kind of liked Baekhyun but then I found out about BaekYeon dating stuffs. I took a bit of a break from Baekhyun but I still like him. For me, it was some kind of a phase. But some people go as far as to cut themselves or to threaten the idols. It is vulgar. As for leaving fandoms, we become fans because we love their music and appreciate, not because we are (ever) going to date them. It;s ridiculous to be super possessive of a person who doesnt even know you and has thousands (probably millions) of other fans.
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