These Complicated Relationships

Don’t read if you are in extreme EunHae or Kyumin mood!! This post might turn you off…

I’m just sad....

Elf are fighthing… Well, we always did… Some of the wars…

1. Fanwars…back then it was with Sones, then Exotics, and recently VIPs…and more other fandoms...

I forgive fanwars…and I think Elf have right to fight in fanwars…as long as we are defending, not attacking… because that is what we Elf are, right? Protecting SJ~

2. Elf 13 vs Elf 15 vs Elf 13+2

This…endless war… don’t know who to be blame… it’s all because our love for SJ… :(

3. The OTP war

This! I want to talk about this now!

EunHae vs EunMin vs Kyumin vs KyuHae vs WonKyu

These five are the one that are always fighting! Others fight too but not as bad as these five…

If they fights and tease cutely, it’s okay…

But fighting that involves curses… I mean, we all one, we all love SJ and Elf, why you have to curse at your own siblings? Usually I saw this happened at Youtube…where the wars over OTP involve curse and hurtful words…such as ‘ off, KyuMin lovers, it’s EunMin here!’ It’s hurtful, don’t say such things! >< Say it nicely ‘We all have our opinion, and I love this more than this…etc etc’ And btw, one more thing, AB shippers should go to BC video and scream ‘AB is REALLLLLL!!!!’ No! All BC shippers go to the vid to sail on BC ships, of course you will get hurtful comments if you say such thing…just say it nicely too, again, with ‘We all have our own opinion…’ or don’t comment at all! Let them ships happily, don’t ruin the moments~

And don’t fight with each other!!! Leeteuk already reminds us in our anniversary fanmeeting! Don’t forget that!

Okay, my opinion now! What I see about the OTP…

It’s sad, sad, sad… I see it flows only one way… (Wait! See my reason first!)

Siwon > Kyuhyun > Donghae > Eunhyuk > Sungmin

I will tell the pairing first, before the ‘but…’

1.EunHae/Haehyuk= EunHae are extremely close and proudly show it, their open moments… Eunhyuk confessed he used to have feeling towards Donghae (Mini Drama, 2006), Eunhyuk asked for breakup (Adonis camp, 2006)…breakup means you are couple! XD, the flirting throughout the show (Tock talkshow, 2006) and moreeeeee… we can’t say they are fanservices (although it seemed like Hae is using fanservice reason to keep touching Eunhyuk)… because fan acc saw them going out together (fancams and fanacc at Paris if I not mistaken, or maybe New York?) and lots of moments without even fans there…and this… what is this? hmm…

2.KyuMin= Kyumin started after that kiss they pretended to act out in Mnet show!

And Mini Drama! You can see at first KyuMin is denying each other. Because it was Ryeowook who suggested “Sungmin hyung and Kyuhyun’s romance” And Kyuhyun asked “Why Sungmin?” and Sungmin asked “Why me??” And they said “No, it just an example” but it’s not just an example… and when MC nominate them, she said “Kyumin couple” and Kyuhyun and Sungmin was like “What? Kyumin? XD…” then bam! KyuMin is legit! 137 ^^

Now the twist…

3. EunMin= However, however, however… EunMin is there way before debut… One thing I read, where they asked questions to Sungmin during debut, he keep answering HyukJae, HyukJae, Hyukjae… and the letters… it shows how much EunMin is there at that time… and BumHae (Kibum and Donghae) seemed strong too that time...

but as time goes by, sadly, we saw Min giving up for Hae… we saw him smiled and laughed everytime there is Eunhae moments… sometimes he s too but that’s rare… he even helps them! He supported Hae’s back when Hae climbed to Hyuk’s back (SuperShow3), he revealed EunHae moments(MTV Ufo?) , he whispered to Donghae to give bread to Eunhyuk by mouth! (SJM FanMeeting, 2011)… but we can’t lie that EunMin is there… and deeply strong... Min takes care of Eunhyuk, sometimes SJ members spilled secrets about these two back then (eventhough it less than Eunhae's secret), the glancing and touching, and more…

4. WonKyu = Well, WonKyu is rising… even Siwon ships it! On twitter, on Strong Heart (where Kyu told that Siwon confessed to him), on shows… too much glancing, hugging, groping, kissing and touching…

5. KyuWook= their fans didn’t create much war but they are strong. Well, I said it’s because their age. Kyu seemed to be comfortable picking up on Wook, hanging out with him, joking around with him, and Wookie too…

6. KyuHae= This… is the one that I’m scared the most… I will tell you later why…

Now I’ll tell you the flow…

Siwon to Kyuhyun = I already tell you why. Siwon actually has too many ships, and it all seemed real. Mainly because he loves skinship and kissed all his hyungs and dongsaengs just like that… SiChul, SiHae, SiMin, WonKyu, Yewon... And because Kibum wasn't there anymore... At first I ignore all ships with Siwon because of that, but now I can’t deny WonKyu anymore… But it was Siwon alone… Even in Strong Heart Kyu said he rejected him…

Kyuhyun to Donghae = You can’t lie. Kyuhyun likes Donghae. Even if it is only for his face. He told it so many times in shows (interviews, showacase, etc), even Eunhyuk admitted it (Open Talkshow, 2012). That explains why he does’t seemed amuse in EunHae moments… you can see many Eunhae moments with annoyed face Kyuhyun. Why did I’m scared of them? Because they are strong once they strike. Remember after From U performances? Donghae tweeted that pic where they hugged and said “Forever thank you and loving you” and Kyuhyun replied “Me too”. He rarely tweeted, but he replied that! An just few weeks ago, Gayo Daejun pre-record, where Hae hugged him, KyuHae fans strikes like there is no tomorrow. The only reason why KyuHae don’t become real is because Donghae’s eyes only see Eunhyuk. And Kyuhyun knows it well. But don’t you think? Scarily, if one day Donghae turned to Kyuhyun, their ship will turn to be Armada!

Donghae to Eunhyuk= I don’t think I need to tell you this. He didn’t like Eunhyuk, he loves him. He really is.

EunHyuk to Sungmin= Don’t cry, EunHae lovers. I’m not going on strong on this. I think Eunhyuk secretly go on Eunhae too… He silently wrote ‘EunHae’ on his photo (SuperShow4 Osaka, 2012) and ‘Donghae I love you’ on the old letter, and he switched the mic just to hold Donghae’s hand (Gayo Daejun, 2012) and protected him at the airport (Wuhan, 2013)… and many more…

But his affection is not as strong as Donghae to him. Even Donghae said that..in interview, he said, he told everything to Eunhyuk, but Eunhyuk just kept everything to himself. Well, I let this pass, because some people likes to keep their things to themselves (and I talk about you, Riko, we are like Eunhae!)

And I’m jealous (for Donghae) over the moments Hyuk spends for Min… and Min to him... It just…sometimes too much loves flowing there… and yeah, HyukMin stays in the same house, and had kissed three times on the lips! Three times! Min’s first kiss... I can't find the vid with eng sub anymore, but here it is, you can hear Soo Young asked is it Jeom Kiss for Min (don't know the spell but it means first kiss) and Sungmin admited it.... on EHB (ep 12), and recently, High society... and they did it naturally… that is something HyukMin stans can be proud at…

And let me ease your heart…

Kyuhyun to Sungmin= Kyuhyun seemed to go for Sungmin too, but like Eunhyuk, he didn’t show it much. Back then it was a lot, but it's rare recently...They just did it secretly and silently. All those stares and smiles, and secret touch. And Kyuhyun seemed to prefer Ryeowook more. But like I said, it was because of the age. Kyuwook is lovely, but we don’t want to disappoint Yewook shippers, hm? ^^ I just wish Kyuhyun to show more affection towards Min.

And my words to Eunhyuk:

Eunhyuk, please take care of Donghae, he loves you. He might be annoying, clingy and touchy, but it’s because he wants you. I’m afraid if he got tired of you, he will turn to Kyuhyun or Siwon…And I tell you, once Donghae fall on Kyu’s or Siwon’s hand, I don’t think they will let him leave.

And my words to you!!

Don’t take offense!

My favorite couple is actually KangTeuk!!!!! Then Hanchul and EunHae…

Then weirdly, ShinMin...even if I sail this alone.. (I wrote this so long in my profile)…

And I’m a writer, so my words and imaginations might be little bit dramatic…

And yup, I'm over reacting XD

They will marry pretty girls *cries* and will give us beautiful Baby Juniors ^^

Don’t believe in me, just believe what your heart tells you, what your OTP shows you, what you see, what you believe… And my information might be wrong too, or what they talked on shows might be scripted... I'm just sad that Elf are fighting about OTP, so I want to pour my heart out.. Now I feel better ^^

Your OTP is legit, whoever they are…as long as they give you happiness ^^

Oh yeah! Another war that Elf seemed to get into these days,

HyukHae vs Haehyuk!

I’m not going to talk about this. Nope. Me? As long as there is Eunhyuk and Donghae. Donghae and Eunhyuk. That is all for me. Maybe I'll go with versatile. Yeah, I just did.

And someone might brick me for not updating His White Audi and Journey to Mokpo now, so I better run. Hehe, no I’m not running. I’m writing it, so bye bye!

Love you, Elf <3

*OTP = one true pairing, couple

*credits to all the owner of awesome pic and vid

*Please forgive me on my grammar

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kuro_usagi0730 #1 Apr 3, 2013 01:14:37

NOooooo
Did you see EHB??? O___O
It was way more than 3 times >____<
HYUKMIN FTW!!! haha

allikay #2 Feb 23, 2013 19:34:02

dunno how to respond so here goes nothing

;AAAAAAAAA;
I cannot explain my feelings for this
I am so confused now
hsjndsfdskj so many ships involved
the donghae sentiments and the kyuhyun and the all the shipsssss
too many feelings ;~~~~~;

harmonicaokyu #3 Feb 16, 2013 05:27:12

.... *speechless* Believe in what you ship... And thanks for writing this blog! I feel thankful even though a little bit sad in my mind...(reminding of fight with VIPs at outside) ive never fought with OTP shippers as elfs r extremely less in our country TT.TT Thank u unnie! Gomarwo! (im shippin another OTP.. Kkk~)

trapped-- #4 Feb 1, 2013 22:22:41

Wow....seriously I'm tired of fanwars,I admit I did join some-I cant help it,EunHae fans is just to dpwjmpajgt toot toot! - but fanwars is tiring,and its just too,...urgh.To defend SJ,yes its a good thing,but among ourselves...to me its stupid.I did hold some grudges against this particular couple-you know who- and yes,I joined fanwars against them but trust me,I ____ing hate it,the feeling to hate any member or any otp in SJ,cant we just be good to each other?We should stop this fanwars before our boys started to stop this bromance thingy and start to date,I mean like really date...with girls.

BlossomingRose #5 Jan 31, 2013 11:30:20

And about Hae, I absolutely agree with you. Hyuk, though he might love Hae as much as Hae did for him, will never really express his affection the way Hae does. He is really guarded, even to the people he treasured the most. His characteristics are ones that portray a some-what introvert who keeps things to himself to protect the people around him. Since he understand clearly well what Hae's personality is like, he probablt just assumed that Hae will be more emotionally affected by his problems than he himself is, and thus he keeps it in.

But what Hyuk doesn't realize is that Hae is more pained by the fact that Hyuk keeps secret from him than anything else. It hurts when the person you trust and love the most keeps things from you and shares it with someone else, because it means that they don't consider you ad a good enough companion to share stuff with. And knowing Hae pr and his naive (trusting) soul, I'm pretty sure this is it.

But I disagree with you when I came to Hae's turning to Kyu and Siwon for affection. He might seek comfort in them temporarily when something happened, but not forever. Hae is that type of people who, though clingy and desperate for affection, are truly loyal. People like him, upon finding his soulmate (the person they love and would never trade anything for, albeit just bromine and not true love), can never truly turn away. They cared and loved too much and too loyally, and that is not something that is easily changed. My main concern is that Hae will get hurt over and over again by the clueless idiot that he are hopelessly heads over heels for. I will seriously kill Hyuk if that was to happen...maybe not because I still need Eunhae tape XD

And the Hyukhae/HaeHyuk fanwar! definitely the most brutal OTP war I've ever seen! Fans go ba____ crazy over it! But I find it superficial actually. Who cares if about the Ike and seme! At the end of the day, it is still Enhae and that is what that truly matter

BlossomingRose #6 Jan 31, 2013 11:11:54

I agree with you, to a certain extend anyway! The only things that I don't agree with you is probably your analysis of Eunmin relationship. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Eunmin even if I am an Eunhae shipper first and foremost. In fact, if I was to choose my favorite bromance couple, it would be them. But that is exactly the point: for me between Eunmin existed bromine only (well after debut anyway). you mentioned that they interact and even initiate extremely close contact very naturally, and I agree with you. But it is to the point, in my opinion, where it becomes too natural. Normal couples won't kiss or initiate extreme PDA so naturally and mindlessly without feeling awkward. They might hug, touch and sometimes even joke around, touching each other. But kissing is another different matter. Most mature couples never kissed in public, because, in love, th act of kissing is something holy and should reserved behind the closed door. I asked my mother once and that is what she said. My cousins, and aunts, and some of my mature friends all responsed similarly.

My deduction is that Eunmin is really close friends, and they shows of their friendship proudly through PDA (sometimes extreme). But Min recognized how his friendship with Hyuk caused riots within the fandom (and maybe between Eunhae as well) so he backed off and helped Hae instead (like you suggested)

That is my interpretation. For me, their is always something suspicious if 2 people kiss on stage (or publicly) without tensing up or feeling awkward. hug and touching and even teasing is ok, but kissing is way out

And actually Eunhae started around the same time Eunmin did. Though Eunmin was more conspicuous because they were in a small test group together, I know for a fact that Eunhae was close back then too. They became friends 11 years ago, which was when Eunmin friendship started. Hyuk revealed this himself in an interview or something (I read it once so I'm not sure which shows).

Chelle3lf #7 Jan 30, 2013 08:35:44

HANCHUL SHIP IS STILL THEREEEEEE~~~
it's not sinking.. it's just... gone for a while.. just wait for it

eunhaekaisooftw #8 Jan 30, 2013 05:12:49

ohmydearauthor IDK why *I guess because we are both ELF* but THIS IS SUPER AWESOME . I MEAN AWESOME BECAUSE I THINK THE E.X.A.C.T SAME WAYYY ! like seriously , eventho I just became an ELF for almost two yrs , but observing them gets me to some conclusion . anddd guess what ;) I'm not the only one who think that way . I'm still shocked at how strikingly exact your opinions with mine . just gahhh I dont wanna comment about the OTP but about eunhae vs haehyuk I do wanna slap some of them who FINDS THE CHANCE TO FIGHT WHENEVER THEY CAN . I mean I dont mind *so much* if u wanna ship just one of them but PLEASE PLEASE PLEASEEE dont fight with others . I'm the neutral one because I do think both of them can top //smirk eunhae has super ability in this . SOOO yup . thanks again fo the article . it shows EXACTLY what I've been thinking since I've been in the fandom :) and yup I am waiting fo ur updates .

SORRY FOR THE LONG REPLIES ! //run away

Mahsa13Jewel #9 Jan 30, 2013 03:12:06

my poor haehyuk and kyumin heart
ummmmma! wae? wae? hwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
it's only eunhae and kyumin
the rest is friendship/brothership stuff
hwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

nadhes #10 Jan 30, 2013 02:13:22

and who is this Riko????

mrsjellyfishielurve #11 Jan 30, 2013 01:19:14

well, i don't ship other couple except for EUNHAE and a little bit for KyuMin... i don't mind other couples to float around in eunhae fanfics though.. well, you can't be too greedy.

same goes with me.. as long as there are donghae and eunhyuk *hintingeunhaethere*, i will enjoy the story.~ well, i don't mind who tops or bottoms :P

specially to author: yah, reply my message!!! *loveyou*

ayumu_min #12 Jan 30, 2013 00:06:57

so,i can't read this???

keyloverfan #13 Jan 29, 2013 18:22:36

I just happened to be surfing in EunHae blog and I saw this. Well I think you're absolutely right.
My opinion on this is that almost everything depends on Donghae. While he's still "with" Eunhyuk, the other ships, like Kyumin, are strong.
If he ever gets tired of Eunhyuk never telling him nothing as if he doesnt trust him or just 'cuz he's the type of person who doesnt rlly talks much about his problems (tho i doubt that will ever happen), he'll go to Kyuhyun who likes him very very much and Kyumin ship will "go down".
I don't even worry for Siwon, i know he likes Kyuhyun a lot!!!! but he goes with every of them XDD Eunmin was so close that it's sad how i dont see them interact as much as before. :/
Ps: My male-male number 1 OTP is Eunhae (and i rlly dont care who tops :P) but that's why I also like HeeHae/HaeChul~ Heechul loves him a lot and so does Donghae. as brothers~

HyukkiBear #14 Jan 29, 2013 17:52:55

I just knew something about OTP things and I saw this and read it, and IDK anymore. My suspicion is rising up. I won't tell what I knew. YEAH! I want to hold it forever as a secret, now that I'm finding some real proof about it. Aghh, though I hate i just don't want to care anymore.

LALALALALALAL~ i'm so random early in the morning!kekkeke. Well, i don't like OTP wars but sometimes i can't help myself too, but I'm forcing myself to remain silent about it. Yeah, you know my only concern is, Hyukjae is forever bottom, LOL. But Still HaeHyuk is my forever OTP! Trololololol. BYE~