Bitter about Monsta X - My Very Unpopular Opinion

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Warning ~ This isn't a fanfic

So for the past few nights I have been watching Monsta X videos and cracking up laughing at their monsta x-ray show they have on youtube. I really think they are funny guys and great on camera. I first heard of the group by my brother because he likes them so I wanted to check them out. In doing so, I found out that they were created through one of those survival competition shows called No.Mercy so I wanted to watch it just to start from the beginning and really get to know the guys.

Well to keep a long story short, like....I'm super bitter about the outcome of the show????

I thought I would watch the show and really get to like them and continue watching their new stuff and really get into their music but like, that did not happen. AT ALL. And I'm probably the only person in the world actually upset about it lol. But that's because I just finished watching the show last night. I think the producers and writers of the show were really and truly grimey and mean spirited and the judges weren't good judges with who they chose to eliminate.

I thought I could see myself growing to like Monsta X but now that I've seen No.Mercy, idk, it's changed how I feel about them. Even though my opinion doesn't matter in the slightest since they have plenty of fans and supporters. And I know that the contestants of the show literally had no control over the outcome, but I can't help but feel sooo....bitter. That's the only way I can describe how I feel.

I am probably the only one that thinks this (and will probably get a lot of hate for this if anyone ever reads this post) but I don't think it's fair that I.M. is in the group. He was placed on the program MORE than half way through. He came in after the fourth elimination round when there were only two more eliminations to go. TWO! And even after joining the program, he never got critiqued on his performances?? He performed in only two group performances and that was it! Like, how is that even fair??

Jooheon called it out and I couldn't agree with him any more than I already do. The way things went down were extremely fishy. The show was rigged. I firmly believe that I.M. was guarunteed a debut regardless of anything, whether he actually knew about it or not. And then the way that stupid judge took the contestants out to eat, buttered them up, and made them feel happy, just to tell them that another trainee will be joining them. AND he did that right after a contestant that everyone loved got eliminated. That was wrong on so many levels. So freakin many. And yet he smiled basically the whole time he was telling them the news.

#Gun should have been the second rapper in the final group. Without question, it should have been him. Even in the recording studio #Gun was better than I.M. It bothers me so much all the praise #Gun got and how much he grew as a rapper and dancer and ended up with nothing to show for it. There was only one judge (Mad Clown?? What kind of freakin name is that anyway) that didn't like him and in my opinion, it sounded like he was just being a hater. The only thing he ever said to him as a critique was that he was "old fashioned" and then straight up told him that he wasn't a good rapper WHICH IS FALSE and also that's not even a critique, it's an opinion. The most he ever did was compare him to Jooheon, which again, IS. NOT. A. CRITIQUE. He really should not have even been a judge.

And on another note (which people will proabbly hate me for saying this too) but I don't think Minhyuk should have been in the final group either. It should have been homie with the big ears, Seokwon. Seokwon was better at singing AND dancing. Minhyuk would hit so many flat notes with his wobbly, raspy voice yet the judges would say his voice was more stable than Seokwon's. Like, huh??? How?? Where?? Show me this vocal stability you speak of. Smh.

I know this show is three years old so my opinions really don't even matter at this point, but never has a show left me so emotionally stressed and bitter. The final group should have included #Gun and Seokwon. NOT Minhyuk and I.M.

That's my opinion and I'm sticking with it. I don't care if people read this and hate me for it.

Something that was supposed to make me like Monsta X, did nothing but make me want nothing to do with them and their music. But I guess that was my own fault for watching the show. Clearly it was a bad decision for me to start from the very beginnings of Monsta X and that's unfortunate. Once again, I know the group members and other contestants had no control over the outcome nor could they control what the writers, producers, and judges chose to do. But this is how I feel.

I won't be a viscious anti-fan and wish terrible things on them or anything like that but I definitely won't be becoming whatever their fan name is. It was clear that all the other members worked hard and truly want to be successful and take care of their parents (Wonho absolutely brought me to tears with the story about his mom selling their furniture and belongings just to give him money).

But still...the way I feel about the end result of the show is overpowering any other feelings I have towards the group as artists. No stan here.

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Reader25 ^{144 streak} #1 Nov 23, 2018 11:43:06

This is just my opinion as well, but while I can see why you would think the way you do, I disagree with the points. (No hate at all, just a discussion). To start with, No Mercy is very heavily (and sometimes very obviously) scripted, and with the kind of "devil editing" that Mnet is famous for, there is no telling what actually went down in the show. I'm sure the audition was real, but everything is drawn out and made more dramatic to create a story that will keep viewers interested. The members have also gone on to actually refer to their No Mercy experience as "hell broadcasting". I would take everything that happened in the show with a grain of salt.

To counter your point about IM, it was unfair that they brought him in towards the end, but I feel like that was because they were looking for a different rap style than what #Gun had to start with. Not the guy's fault, but that was just how it was. Personally, I feel like #Gun's rap was pretty rough and hard, and tended to be a little messy at times, and since Jooheon has a similar hard rap style as well, IM's style is a much-welcome necessity since it not only balances out Jooheon's style but also stands out on its own with its smooth flow. If I think about #Gun being a part of the songs MX has released, both him and Jooheon would have been too much, and the extremely heavy sound would have turned away a large portion of Korean audiences. Even with IM's smoother rap, MX has had a harder time appealing to Korean audiences than international audiences because of the hip-hop and R&B/EDM influences in their music.

As for Mad Clown, he is a very established rapper with a number of years of experience and collabs under his belt, and from Starship's side, he would be the best judge to be able to see if the trainees had what they were looking for to cast in the boy group. I didn't really agree with his being against #Gun, but he's definitely known the trainees for much longer. #Gun was the weakest dancer out of all the trainees. Wonho's team went out of their way in the "mad scientist" performance to give him the center and a different role to kind of camoflauge the lack of dance skills. Even in their "No Exit" stage, they created the entire human car formation so that #Gun could be showcased without any dancing. The song has been performed after #Gun's elimination, and the human car formation was the first thing to go. As a group that's so heavily focused on dance performance, they wouldn't have been able to sustain #Gun's lack of dance skills in time for debut, especially since it looked like he wasn't interested in dancing at all.

As for Minhyuk, they mentioned many times how his voice was strained because of overuse. After a few months of rest and care, there was a marked difference when they debuted. Apart from that, an idol group is more than just performance of course, and Minhyuk really has the ability to naturally do exceptionally well in variety, which is something that Seokwon lacked. Overall Seokwon's personality felt rather flat, and his expressions during the "Hug Me" stage felt particularly out of place since he was the only one going for aegyo during a y performance. I'd agree with you that during No Mercy, Seokwon was probably a better singer, but we have no idea what other factors figured into his elimination. Lol if you made it this far through this huge chunk of text, thanks for reading. This is just my two cents, just thought it was an interesting discussion. I hope you can look past No Mercy and definitely give their music/variety a shot, but if not, that's fine too, everyone has their own opinions :)