So, I have this little neat Kakao group with a few of my friends where we hardcore fan-girl about Kryber, Amber, Krystal and a bunch of other queer pairings and people who we suspect are queer. (I use 'queer' because we assume they're non-straight, but we don't know which kind -- they could be biual, panual, aual, etc. but definitely we think they're not straight). 

As you all know or may not know, there have been some rumors going around about a gay couple within the same group. Within my Kakao group we have discussed the possibility that Kryber may be the supposed gay couple. "But Sophia, what are you talking about? Krystal is dating Kai" or is she? 

Entertain me for a second. I understand I fall into the "delulu" category, but hear me out. "Sophia, what the are you doing investing your time into this? Where the is the next chapter? You lazy, procrastinating, !" I know. I know. I just... I'm working on the next chapter of my fic, I swear to sweet baby Jesus. But, I shared my theory with my Kakao peeps, and I just had an itch to share it with the rest of the fandom, and I cannot focus on my chapter until I get this off my chest.

So, in order to understand why I believe Kryber fits into the timeline together with proof of why I believe this timeline is accurate, we must first present one of the clues given by Pann regarding what characteristics this gay couple has. This analysis was not my doing, but the doing of two of my Kakao peeps.

Chinese Zodiac

KAKAO CONVO:
(it will contain typos since it is unedited, just raw from the chat. I did remove usernames for privacy purposes)

[Person1] [4:14 PM] Oh and with the gay idol post the zodiacs are iffy at most

[Person1] [4:14 PM] Some people can be born on the border and be considered two animals

[Person1] [4:15 PM] It depends what calendar you decide to look at

[Person1] [4:16 PM] Like the calendar most of the world uses begins on January 1st. But most of asia used a different one too  which is why Chinese New Years is differant

[Person2] [4:19 PM] Yeah, I know that. And there's nothing tgat says it is exactly related to zodiac signs or the chinese year, you know?

[Person1] [4:20 PM] Yea that too lol

[Person1] [4:20 PM] But it most likely is.

[Person1] [4:20 PM] But even if it's that it's still gonna be impossible to figure out which idols it is

[Person2] [4:22 PM] True, but there are more clues. People are saying tht its probably the zodiac signs of yhe idols and a reference to the year they debuted, since they are in the same grouo

[Person1] [4:22 PM] Also if it's between an on and monkey there would be a 5 year difference

[Person1] [4:22 PM] Ox*

[Person1] [4:23 PM] They say the couple has been together for 5 years

[Person1] [4:24 PM] So from me looking at it. It's saying the the dog and the monkey are together and the dog debuted the year of the ox and the monkey debuted the year of the monkey?

[Person1] [4:25 PM] Or is it the other way around?

[Person1] [4:27 PM] If it's the dog and the monkey it would be a 2 year difference in age. The dog would have debuted in 2009. The monkey debuted in 2004(maybe but impossible 2016).

[Person2] [4:29 PM] But that wouldnt make sense, since they are in the same group, right?

[Person1] [4:30 PM] Yea it wouldn't.

[Person2] [4:33 PM] The dog is in a relationship with the monkey. Just like the cow/bull/ox/thing is in a relationship with the monkey. What if it means that the monkeys are the same person and the same way the dog and the bull are the same person

[Person2 [4:33 PM] What if the person who was born in the year of the dog is a Taurus in zodiac sign?

[Person2] [4:35 PM] That would narrow down the amount of idols

[Person1] [4:35 PM] Idk is the picture made by someone in Asia? Cause not many know or care about the other zodiac sign😭.

[Person1] [4:36 PM] Does the other zodiac even have a monkey? Idk much about the other zodiac either

[Person2] [4:36 PM] It was translated from. pann, so it was made by someone who is asian

[Person2] [4:37 PM] But don't forget this is not supposed to be obvious. Thy could mix in the zodiac signs and the chinse year and wtv else

[Person1] [4:37 PM] Yea that's why I'm asking is there even a monkey in the other zodiac

[Person2] [4:37 PM] Thats the only reason why I considered it, tho the other zodiac sign does not have a monky

[Person1] [4:38 PM] Wouldn't that eliminate the other zodiac then?

[Person2] [4:39 PM] Not necessarily, they can just use the other zodiac to create confusion since most asians are kot familiar w it

[Person1] [4:40 PM] Then what would the monkey mean?

[Person2] [4:41 PM] Could it mean that the monkey was not only born in the year of the monkey, but that's also the year of ther debut? And since you know that they are in the same group, they don"t have to put the debut info for both

[Person1] [4:41 PM] It's either 2004 or 2016 then

[Person2] [4:43 PM] But the rumors have bedn around before 2016, so we can rule that out... maybe, 2004? But they also said that it was a trending group and idk any trending groups rn that debuted that long ago

[Person1] [4:45 PM] Idk any groups in 2004 in general lol. I was gonna say dbsk but they debuted in 2003

[Person1] [4:46 PM] Cause when dbsk was 5 members there was I think 2 ships that are still shipped

[Person1 [4:49 PM] If they debuted in 2004 then they would have to be pretty old

[Person2] [4:50 PM] But dbsk are not a trending group rn. I think a trending group would be like BTS or IKon or something like that, but they didn't debut that long ago

[Person1] [4:50 PM] Anyone debuting in 2004 can't be born in 1992. So they would have to be older an they definitely aren't trending now

[Person1] [4:51 PM] Dbsk is trending more domestically in Japan and Korea. But they're currently on hiatus cause one is in enlistment

[Person2] [4:59 PM] True, but even domestically they aren't trending per se. They just have a solid fanbase, I think trending is like the groups everyone talks about

[Person2] [4:59 PM] Would exo be considered as such?

[Person1] [5:00 PM] Not anymore I don't think exo would be considered trending. They only trend when having a scandal.😂 but they have a big fanbase that's kinda it

[Person2] [5:03 PM] I thought so. Then idk... BTOB? BTS? Idk boy groupa tbh

[Person2] [5:03 PM] It could still be a girl grouo, bur somehow I doubt it

[Person1] [5:06 PM] But none of them debuted in 2004

[Person2] [5:08 PM] What if we're looking at it wrong? What if the ox is the year of debut?

[Person1] [5:08 PM] 2009?

[Person1] [5:09 PM] Why do you doubt it's a girl group?

[Person2] [5:09 PM] Yup, but there aren't any 2009 groups trending, I think

[Person1] [5:11 PM] Maybe it depends on what they mean by trending?

[Person2] [5:13 PM] Mostly because it would be harder to be sure that they are dating, unless they hve pictures of them kissing. You know how girls are touchy and stuff there, plus it sounds like it's a boy group. I feel like it would be a bigger scandal if it were a boy group bc of the fangirls

[Person2] [5:13 PM] They would be able to capitalize more on it if it's a boy group

[Person2] [5:14 PM] Also yes, idk what they mean by trending

[Person1] [5:14 PM] Which is ironic considering the amount of gay fanfic there are XD

[Person2] [5:17 PM] IKR?????

[Person2] [5:17 PM] But then again, most of the ff is written by ifans

[Person1] [5:18 PM] Lol but there's still a decent amount of boy groups that came out in 2009 and they aren't really trending now technically the only one currently trending is beast but only cause one of their members "left"

[Person2] [5:22 PM] I rly have no idea who could it be and the clues don't help much bc I don't know anything abt boy groups.

[Person1] [5:24 PM] 2009 is surprisingly mostly girl groups

[Person2] [5:25 PM] True, we could try to see if any gg from 2009 or 2004 applies to this

[Person1] [5:25 PM] Well fx is out😂

[Person2] [5:28 PM] Lmao we know the couple there has broken up xD

[Person1] [5:29 PM] And the timeline don't work

[Person2] [5:29 PM] 2ne1 also debuted that year

[Person1] [5:29 PM] The only thing that matches in that is that Amber is the monkey

[Person2] [5:31 PM] True, nothing else fits

[Person2] [5:32 PM] In 2ne1 I think CL was born in 1991, minzy in 1993 and both Bom and Dara in 1980 something

[Person1] [5:33 PM] 2ne1 is out too then

[Person2] [5:38 PM] What if it has nothing to do w the debut year? What if, for instance, you have to add the numbers and it says the amount of ppl in the group? Like the years of the monkey are 2016, 2004, 1992 and some others. Lets assume the person was born in the year of the monkey, then monkey = monkey is 1992 = 2004, 2 + 4 = 6 and it's a 6 member group, for instance? Am I making any sense? xD

[Person2] [5:39 PM] Or 1992 = 2016 (2+1+6 = 9) so 9 member group

[Person1] [5:39 PM] Yea lol but the 9 member group sounds kinda iffy not that many groups

[Person2] [5:42 PM] And the possible years of birth are 1997, 1994 and 1992 . Actually both Krystal and Amber fit those of 2 and fx debut in 2009... but we know thet aren't together anymore, right?

[Person2] [5:43 PM] Twice is a 9 member girl group that is trending and they have 1997 liner, I think as well as a 1992

[Person1] [5:43 PM] Ooo I didn't know that but didn't they debut last year

[Person1] [5:45 PM] Let's keep fx on the table but not main priority cause like one of you guys said Amber said she visited Krystal a lot but no one knew until she said anything so we should Still keep it as a possibility but not as a main one

[Person2] [5:46 PM] They did, but we can't rule out the groups that debut recently bc they are the ones truly trending rn

[Person2] [5:46 PM] We'll keep fx on the table bc they fit the clues. But lets see who else could fit in

[Person1] [5:47 PM] True. Let me look up ikon cause I know they have like one ship that's like the main ship in the group

[Person2] [5:47 PM] Check it out and let me know

[Person1] [5:47 PM] Nvm they don't fit.

[Person1] [5:50 PM] I can't think of any other groups lol

[Person1] [5:51 PM] Beast is out

[Person2] [5:53 PM] Hum, what abt GFriend? Aren't there 6 of them? I think they also havr a 1992 liner and a 1997

[Person1] [5:55 PM] They don't have a 92

[Person2] [5:57 PM] They dont? Hum... mamamoo have a 92 and a 94, but we can rule them out. If anyone is dating at all in that group it would be solar and moonbyul and they don't fit

[Person2] [5:58 PM] Even if Moonbyul and Wheein would fit, they are def not dating

[Person1] [5:58 PM] Lol that's another thing we gotta keep in mind too I guess. If they have enough shippers/rumors

[Person2] [5:59 PM] I already rulled out SNSD too. Seohyun is the. only 92 liner and the only plausible couple in there wiuld be taeny, who are both 89 liners

[Person1] [6:01 PM] Ok so the groups out are

Snsd

Gfriend

Beast

Ikon

2ne1

Twice

Possible ones are

Fx

[Person1] [6:01 PM] I just checked out twice they don't have a 92

[Person2] [6:11 PM] Damn, okay then who else is there? 4Minute?

[Person1] [6:12 PM] Exo only works with the ages  not debut or "trending"

[Person1] [6:13 PM] They have a 92 and a 94

[Person1] [6:14 PM] It's hyuna and the maknae so hyun

[Person1] [6:14 PM] Idk if there's a ship for them though

[Me] [6:16 PM] i was the one who said that amber visisted krystal a lot recently. she said it in a fan meet. someone asked her i think who of the member she hangs out with the most and amber said she would go to krystal's house often but since krystal moved recently, they had been texting a lot.  I believe this was last year. honestly, i may just be delulu BUT i still believe that even though am and krystal dated in the past, they broke up and they dated again. so if f(x) is on the table, i could definitely believe that they are the gay couple. especially with all of their recent flirts and krystal's hints at her uality in the months prior the dating scandal with kai. it would make sense to me.

[Person1] [6:17 PM] That's why I said they aren't off the table but we are all a little bias so we can't make it a main priority

[Me] [6:19 PM] plus Person1 and i had already discussed that amber fits the depp profile

[Person1] [6:20 PM] Lol ok me and you are very biased

[Person1] [6:20 PM] But I'm trying not to be

[Me] [6:21 PM] T_T i really hope they are but I don't want them to be found out

[Person2] [6:21 PM] I try not to say Kryber bc I know I'm being biased xD

 [Person1] [6:22 PM] That's why we can't make fx the main one or we would just say kryber and end it at that

[Me] [6:22 PM] IT IS KRYBER

 [Person1] [6:22 PM] Stop

[Person1] [6:23 PM] We gotta be somewhat objective

[Person1] [6:23 PM] Ok so the groups out are

Snsd

Gfriend

Beast

Ikon

2ne1

Twice

Possible ones are

Fx

4minute(?)

[Me] [6:23 PM] LEMME ALONE

[Me] [6:23 PM] IT'S KRYBER IT'S KRYBER

[Person2] [6:33 PM] Mamamoo are also out, Person1

[Person2] [6:33 PM] What abt Red Velvet?

[Person1] [6:35 PM] Ok so the groups out are

Snsd

Gfriend

Beast

Ikon

2ne1

Twice

Mamamoo

Red velvet

Possible ones are

Fx

[Person1] [6:35 PM] They don't have 92 and they were 2014 plus they don't really trend

[Person2] [6:38 PM] Should we rly rule out exo? They have huge ships

[Person2] [6:38 PM] And bts? Let me check if they have any 92

[Person1] [6:39 PM] It's just the people in exo that match the ages don't match the huge ships

[Person1] [6:39 PM] Kai is a 94 but his largest ship isn't a 92

[Person1] [6:40 PM] Bts has a 94, 92, and 97

[Person1] [6:41 PM] Ok so the groups out are

Snsd

Gfriend

Beast

Ikon

2ne1

Twice

Mamamoo

Red velvet

Possible ones are

Fx

4minute

Bts

[Person1] [6:41 PM] Idk what the bts and 4minute main ships are so idk if they can be counted yet

[Person2] [6:41 PM] J-hope, Jin, Jungkook and Rap Monster in bts

[Person2] [6:42 PM] Me neither

[Person1] [6:43 PM] I'm just gonna go on aff and see what's that biggest ships😂😂

[Person1] [6:43 PM] Jin is shipped with rapmon

[Person1] [6:44 PM] Kook all of them at least once😂

[Person1] [6:45 PM] 4minute has a lot with beasts but not that many together

[Person1] [6:45 PM] Ok so the groups out are

Snsd

Gfriend

Beast

Ikon

2ne1

Twice

Mamamoo

Red velvet

Possible ones are

Fx

Bts

[Person2] [6:46 PM] Yes, that's ou current stand. What do we do abt exo tho? Should we rule them out?

[Person1] [6:47 PM] Idk cause I don't follow them but I guess since they have a couple of members that match both years we have to keep them on the table at least

[Person1] [6:47 PM] Ok so the groups out are

Snsd

Gfriend

Beast

Ikon

2ne1

Twice

Mamamoo

Red velvet

Possible ones are

Fx

Bts

Exo

[Person1] [6:47 PM] So now it's three possible ones

[Me] [6:49 PM] *whispers* @_e'' kryber... *twitch*

[Person1] [6:50 PM] We shall ignore Sophia's opinion until she decides to not be bias XD

[Person2] [6:52 PM] Yes, we gotta ignore her for now xD

[Person1] [6:53 PM] Anymore groups?

[Person1] [6:59 PM] Got7 is out

[Person1] [7:00 PM] Winner matches the ages

[Person2] [7:01 PM] Do they have any big ships?

[Person1] [7:01 PM] The big ships don't match the ages either

[Person2] [7:03 PM] We gotta consider the smaller ones too, just in case

[Person1] [7:03 PM] Idek if winner has smaller ships😭 I don't really follow them but I'll see what I can find

[Person2] [7:04 PM] Person1, I just realized somthing

[Person1] [7:05 PM] But if we look at small ships then almost all the ones that match can be it because there will always be at least one shipper for each possible pairing

[Person1] [7:06 PM] Ok so the groups out are

Snsd

Gfriend

Beast

Ikon

2ne1

Twice

Mamamoo

Red velvet

Got7

Possible ones are

Fx

Bts

Exo

Winner(?)

4minute(?)

[Person2] [7:08 PM] What if

Dog = ox means 94 liner = 2009 which is the year they met

And monkey = monkey is 92 liner = 2016 which is the current year. If you subtract the numbers it gives us a 6 year window. What if they started dating in 2010 and that's what they're hinting at?

[Person2] [7:08 PM] Bc they said that the couple had been together for 5 years

[Person2] [7:08 PM] And they. could have started dating pre-debut

[Person1] [7:09 PM] I'm trying really hard to be unbiased but you are not helping me Hyung XD

[Person2] [7:09 PM] I KNOW

[Person2] [7:09 PM] I am trying so hard xD

[Person2] [7:09 PM] 2009 can be either the year they met or debuted

[Person1] [7:10 PM] Can we just cave cause I'm jus