Conducts Of A Reader.

I will discuss about two issues/questions here. 

 

1. Why you shouldn't advice a writer?

I've been wanting to talk about these topic for a LONG time, but couldn't do due to being busy. 

Firstly, I would like to make it clear that it's based on my experience as a writer, there certainly might be people/writers who would possess different opinion than me. So, don't take it as a standard for all the writers out there. 

So, the issue is simple. It's about readers giving out their advice to writers about the next chapter or plot. Something like:

"Make this character do that!"

"I'm not satisfied with this, do it that way"

"(Please) Add more fluff/romance/anything in the next chapter!"

"(Please) Write a longer chapter!" 

"(Please) Add this scene in the future chapter!"

"I think you should do that!"

"(please) Do that!"

 

 These are the most common examples I can come up with at this moment. So I will try to explain y'all how it works when you are the one writing a story.

Most of the time, the writer has a plot drafted in their brains, it might not be detailed, but it still has a flow. And sometimes such advice can disrupt the flow of the plot they've been thinking, since they might feel- 'Am I doing it wrong?' 'Is it not going in a good way like I have assumed it to be?' 'Will the readers not like if I continue with my original plan?' 'Should I change the plot/plan in the upcoming chapter?' - such confusion. 

And such confusion actually undoubtedly leads them to garner insecurities about their plans and characters. And in extreme cases, writers may start getting the 'Writer's block' due to this. 

In easy words, it's kind of demotivating

 

Now, some may think that readers are free to provide any kind of opinion regarding the story and I am just overreacting here. And some of us might be doing it unconsciously or without any motive to demotivate the author, some of us might be just attached to the story and think about giving our own thoughts for the betterment of the plot.   

But, at the end of the day, the writer is the one who will write the story, and I believe it is really important for them to not let their flow of plans getting disrupted by anything. You might be doing it without giving it much thoughts, but it might leave a great impact on the writer's flow of plot OR on their confidence on writing or their creativity. 

 

However, there are writers who sometimes ask the readers for their advice on the upcoming plot, because they solely want to write what readers want or they might want to get more ideas from different individuals. In this case, YOU ARE DEFINITELY FREE TO GIVE YOUR ADVICE- since the writer has personally asked for it.

 

Now, I will talk from a reader's perspective, or mostly what cautions I maintain before leaving my opinion/comment on a fic. I have always been careful about the commenting anything, since I know reader's comment can impact the writer in many ways. 

So I mostly talk about the updated chapter, or the development from the beginning till the recent chapters (tbh this is what I look in the comments of my own stories, to basically know what the readers are feeling about this chapter I have just updated, or the improvement in the relationship of various characters, or some special scenes I have included, so I think other writers here also want something like this? Instead of getting seemingly intellectual advice from others!). 

The most I say about upcoming chapters is, "Would love to see how their relationship will develop!" "This incident MIGHT lead to that" "Hope they will be able to solve this issue" - I limit myself to only guessing, instead of directly telling them what they SHOULD do. 

It's okay to guess and ask any questions if you're curious or confused about something. EVERYTHING is actually okay if you're just cautious about few things- like not to downright start giving expert advice, or demand things, or directly/indirectly trying to nitpick faults that might lead the writer to feel disrespected+demotivated.  

 

 

 

2. Why you shouldn't demand for updates?

 

 

This is another crucial topic I've been wanting to talk about for a long time. And I have seen many writers facing this issue. 

We as a reader, should remember that writers here in this site, mostly aren't any professional writers. That means, they're either students, or job holders. And even if they don't do anything, just sit around at their home, THEY STILL HAVE A LIFE outside this site and outside writing. 

I know when we like a story, we tend to become less patient for the updates. It's natural. It's not our faults.

But what is faulty, is if we start to pester about updates.  

"Please update soon!/Update soon! I am waiting for the next update/ When will you update?/Hope you update soon!" 

Some might think it would make the authors happy. But in most of the cases, these are actually the MOST ANNOYING comments to a writer. (Especially if you leave such comments when they have just updated a new chapter!!!). And you mostly don't know them personally, you don't know the struggles they are facing in their personal life. 

So, if you leave comments like this, it sometimes appear as if you are feeling entitled to the updates, which seems quite disrespectful from your side. And it makes you look ungrateful in a way. 

You might've said it with a good and encouraging motive, but word-play is more intense for the writers because they are always playing with words. So some words come out with a negative vibe rather than sounding positive.  

I think the most we can do is, "Patiently waiting for the next chapter/ Can't wait for the next chapter but take your time!"

 

 

 

I hope I've explained them clearly from both writer's and reader's perspective. And if I might add, it's not only the way you think you should treat a writer. It's actually kind of like a life lesson, that every coin has two sides. You should consider other's perspective along with yours in every situation, it will help you understand things more accurately. 

Thank you for reading, hope everyone will try to understand it, instead of getting hurt or annoyed! :)

Have a nice day!❤

 

 

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DreamyFoxie
#1
Well, as a reader and a writer itself, I totally understand this point of view. This is well said actually. Like when I read another fanfic, there is a reader like demanding the writer to have a long chapter or this character shouldn't act this away. Eventually, it makes the writer like... hide the story and I couldn't finish reading it because of certain reader that think they can write the plot better than the writer itself. They should know that not every plot is the same one in their minds. The writer has their own plot and the reader can just read. If they think, they want to write this way of plot, they should write their own.

But yeah, I'm also restraining myself to comment from pressuring the writer. I mostly comment about how I feel as a reader for that chapter. Same as I make a comment after watching an episode of that drama. Sorta. So... yeah. Can't say much.
baekyhoney
#2
luckily, i try to take everything with a grain of salt. sometimes, i do my job a little too well and get kind of sad when readers hate on my characters haha. like when they actively say, "ugh the main pair should break up. it's toxic" or etc. i've never gotten straight up comments that tell me i should write something in a certain way. so in a way, i appreciate every single reader i have <3

on a more positive note, it's so rewarding when they point out something super technical. like when they compliment you for character development or really share their genuine experience. it definitely outweighs all the cons. i think you're doing awesome the way you are. just let your imagination run its course c:
MissMinew
#3
Hi! I think your last point is very good, but I feel like the first one is a little contradicting. I get what you’re trying to say but I guess I also disagree a little, heh. ^^’

It’s not that I believe readers should demand a story go another way. But demanding comments can go “back” just as much (“why did this character do this in this chapter when it doesn’t make any sense???” Or “this is so bad, I don’t like how this character turned out to be”) Both relate to the story that has already happened and both can make the author of the story incredibly insecure about their story. On the other hand, comments such as “I can’t wait to see if character do this as I think that’s the next logical step” or “man, I really hope character gets to see what they’re worth” are incredibly rewarding comments in my opinion. None of them are rude, but the ones who are looking to the future of the story might actually raise plotholes that the author hadn’t seen before. I have had readers ask questions in good faith and their ideas were things I had never even considered that I actually liked better than my initial idea!

(To take your examples;
“Make this character do this” -> “man, I’d love to see character x do this”
“Add more fluff/romance/whatever” -> “eeeek i love the fluff, i want more of that :DDD”
“Write a longer chapter” -> “I’m so invested in this story, I wouldn’t mind longer chapters!!”
“Add this scene in the future” -> “I just got this mad idea and I wanted to tell you about even tho I don’t know the future of this story!! Xxxx”

All the comments, with practically the same “demands” can be written into something few authors would feel insecure about and still they talk about the future chapters and nothing of the past ones)

I think it’s okay to give advice, also unasked for, especially if the comments are nice and/or hopeful. It can be hard to read tone, yet still - some of it can definitely be expressed in words and emojis too.

It’s like you say last in your point; you can say everything. You say to do it with caution. I say to do it in a nice respectful way. I don’t believe you have to caution yourself in your comments or that you need to dissect whether or not your comment can lead to insecurities. Having to caution yourself is going to lead to fewer comments because it takes a lot of spontaneity of commenting out of the question. It makes it a process you have to think over, sometimes more than once. And in my opinion commenting should be based on the feelings you feel in the moment of reading - even if it’s spazzing and making typos and whatnot.

Be nice, be respectful. Then you can comment absolutely anything in my opinion. Silent readers are a lot more demotivating and encourages a lot more insecurity than a commenter that is invested in the story and would like to see something in the future.

This is just my take on it, though, and it’s with my own experiences of the comments I receive. With all due respect. ^_^
Abcdexolover
#4
Omg babe!! I really wanted to discuss with you about this issue at cc bcause of this one anonymous. I really don't get it what he/she's problem. My blood getting boiled up Reading the comments. I feel like wanna flying punch on them face! It's so annoying!!!

I really hate the very first comment that this someone say "I think one thing you can improve is, try not too be so detailed explaining every little things and blablabla.." I be like..tf??? If you're too lazy to read then just skip the part!! A lot of reader including me love every single details expect you!!

After that I leaving comment with "I hate it when someone hurting your feeling" and after you reply there's another one commenting like "It’s okay author!!! Treat it as an advice from them and apply them in your writing to improve." I be like..guys COME ON!!! Why there must be some act like this? I really desperately want to scream at them " off!!! If you don't like it just leave it!!! Don't attacking the author!!! It's not easy to write a story!!!"

People are not born to be perfect that can make everybody happy!! Please mind your words from hurting others. If you think the story can't meet your liking then just ing go away! Don't ing hurting my favorite author!!! SHE IS THE BEST THAT I EVER MET!!

sorry babe for cursing here. I know you're tired. Just remember that A LOT of reader love you and appreciated your writing. Don't let those trash bother your mind. Because TRASH deserve nothing.

Take care and stay safe babe! Have a good rest!!! I'm behind you!!
Scarlet_Sky
#5
Thank you for addressing this! It's true that it can be demotivating when someone writes these things, especially when it happens often.
I almost gave up on one of my stories because of this and even now, I hardly have any motivation to continue. I changed the plot because I got frustrated after being told a million times that a certain character isnt liked by my readers. They were supposed to go through slow character development, but I scrapped all that... and now I'm not happy with the plot anymore. >.<
Also, when you just updated and someone asks you to update immediately after, it's kinda hilarious to me. lmao Makes no sense.
Damia_Song123 #6
Dear you're not annoying anyone because I think what you said is the truest words. Some people should be educated on this thing. Authors (regardless of freelance or professional) shouldn't be pressured in any ways possible by any external forces. The story is carefully crafted by their beautiful minds and strong wills. To have it breaking down by mere comments demanding updates rather than sharing opinion about the story is so disrespectful in my book. Readers should have manners even if the author is friendly or not. In the end, nobody knows our heart.

It's really good of you to bring this issue into light. Rarely i see anyone sharing this thing. Thank you for addressing it & hopefully we can be much considerate & supportive readers to out authors :)
QueenMoona
#7
I like that you brought attention to these main two points. They're important and it's nice to see this written out for everyone to see, even as us writers who read.

I haven't gotten much suggestions, but when I do I don't listen to them because like you mention as a writer you have a flow and you start doubting yourself. Heck, I doubt myself with what I write on my own and then having suggestions like that can easily demotivate a writer.

I feel bad enough to be unable to make updates due to my personal life or simply having writer's block so hearing demands for updates can be a lot. Recently, as a reader if I mention updates I do add to take your time I think that's something nice to add that you're understanding. For a big story of mine I've gotten a lot of attention I've been unable to update and made an author's note of my hectic schedule and I instantly got readers being sweet and understanding rooting for me and patiently waiting so I've found that that helps to just mention to them that you haven't forgotten the story and that it's not on hiatus or anything.

Once again thank you for this blog entry I hope many people will take a look at it and finish it changing their ways if they've been giving advice or making demands for updates in the ways you've mentioned ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Mrs_Park_ChanYeol #8
You should really carry on with your stories they way you do
I won't praise you to heavens like othee readers but I'd like to tell you your stories are one of a kind and not really the regular cliches
Also I guess most of the people understand authors tooo have their personal life so just please continue with your stories at your own pace and with your own plot we'll be there to support the stories in the best way we can