Is this plagiarism or naah?

Hello, people of asianfanfics!

Today I'm here with two stories with -very similar- choice of words. Perhaps the punctuation and a few words have been added or removed, but the lines are essentially the same in these particular parts of the stories. In my opinion, "Longing for you" plagiarized "Waking Dream." To back up my claim, I recorded a video to show you how similar they are in real time (I knew AFF would do the right thing after the report of "Longing for you," so it's no longer available to read). From what I've seen here, I also suspected that people have a hard time accepting the truth. So live footage is useful proof. Now, I didn't realize that the recorder hadn't been recording the full right part of the computer screen * facepalm* and the fic was deleted shortly after. But below are some pictures that I captured much earlier (before filming the video) to show it more clearly to people defending this behavior.

 

Video:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1xRKRWDK3anp7BRkWiHUx1gkxnWiN_Qy4

*Sorry if the image is blurry, it's better to watch on PC.

 

Pictures:

 

I've tried reasoning with a few people on why I consider this plagiarism. Perhaps the plots and characters of the two fics were not the same, and I give it that. However, isn't the definition of "plagiarize," according to the Merriam Webster Online Dictionary, as follow:

 

Plagiarize: to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one's own: use (another's production) without crediting the source.

*(Inform yourself more about plagiarism here. It might give you a more in-depth understanding of what plagiarism is.) 

 

So, even if a few sentences are the same (except for a few intentional changes I think) I find that this is blatant plagiarism, not of the whole story "Waking Dream," but a few of its sentences and words have been plagiarized by "Longing for you." I think that's enough to count as plagiarism.

But people have told me that it is possible to have the same words in a fic. I know, I get it. Universal sentences like: "I love you. You make me so happy. I can't live without you. Please don't leave." can indeed be featured in a myriad of artistic works. In this particular case, however, where a character is struggling to wake up from a dream/coma, I cannot fathom how it can be possible that two writers HAD THE EXACT SAME (for the most part) STREAM OF THOUGHTS when they choose how to write that scene on their own fics. The same wording! Practically some sentences are the same! Almost the same sentence structure! From the footage in the video you can also see the chapters were written... Two years apart! ("Waking Dream" coming out first) It's uncanny! Really, what a spooky coincidence 👻 I've never encountered that before -unless it had been plagiarized of course-. But given that some people told me that is not plagiarism, maybe plagiarism has gotten a new definition in this site, and I haven't been informed. I don't know.

What I would like to know is what you guys think. Help me understand the situation. Being a writer here, I really would like to know what the majority of writers and readers feel about plagiarism and what they consider to be plagiarism. so I can get the hell out of here before someone plagiarizes me but claims that isn't the case. Therefore, please do leave your vote here in the poll at the end or enlighten me with a comment.

 

I also know I might get severely bullied and attacked for doing this (based on what I previously witnessed). It's okay. I'm doing this to defend my dear friend because plagiarism hurt. If my friend didn't want to bring the matter in a blog, it's their issue and reasons, let them be (I did get my friend's authorization to write this blog post, though). So, if you want to CUSS at someone because of this whole blog post do it AT ME. Be my guest. Destroy me because you think your claim is 'the whole truth and nothing but the truth.' I'm the one analyzing the whole situation and reaching a conclusion, a reasonable one, in my opinion, based on all the evidence and factual definitions of plagiarism to defend my argument, hoping other people will get it too.

That's all folks. Thanks for coming to my TED talk! Don't forget to vote in the poll below!! 🗳️

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Is this plagiarism or naah?

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LilMinMinniexx #1
http://www.kpopfanfiction.com/Story/88691/Longing-For-You-Sulay-fic/1/ < they stole it here too.
keripik_kentang #2
THAT'S DEF A PLAGIARISM. I never read that fanfic tbh but seriously, whaat? A sulay author did that? :""'''') ughhhh.
neonflowers #3
That's def plagiarism. Also, in the results of your poll, idk why the hell would option b still have votes?! Maybe they're the ones who do it? :p on a last note i love how u said thanks for coming to my ted talk!! as a person who had to watch a lot of ted talks i really found it funny lmao
jeniel #4
It is plagiarism. Because that's basically copying lines from another fics. Plagiarism is going wild these days it's crazy... do they even think how we feel as a writer who takes a lot of time to write it. ;-;
xingthighs #5
Yeah that's def plagiarism. Sure, sometimes people have similar sentences and that's not bad but this is several sentences and a few paragraphs that are exactly the same just puntuated differently.

It doesn't matter how big or small, if something is copied word for word than it's plagerism and this is what I see here. Just because the longing for you one changed the format doesn't mean that half of what I see here is copied from the original story so do whatever you can to make sure that your friend's work is justified!
chroma #6
I agree with you wholeheartedly. Besides, your blog post was nicely written with logic arguments rather than focusing on pointing out who the actual victim and plagiarizer are. :)
Tell your friend that she's in good hands and that she's got awesome friends!
donghaesbread #7
I'm pretty sure people on AFF take plagiarism very seriously. It doesn't matter if it's an entire story, or if it's a fragment or two-- as long as they copied, they plagiarized.

If people thought in the "Nah, everyone does that here. It's chill." mindset, I would be scared for the current generation. :') Hope there's not going to be any votes in that option.

I just find this incident a bit strange since both people are claiming each other as the plagiarizers. You don't usually see people who plagiarize have such a strong will in stating that they wrote everything-- they usually back away/apologize quickly.
absuholute #8
Thank you for the defense. I keep my silence in this because I have a clear definition of what plagiarism is and and wouldn't think twice standing by my own beliefs. If people here would fight you because of this, then we have reasons to get the hell out of here and never share our works to this kind of community.

A community which favors dishonesty and disrespect, ruled mostly by those who easily agree to blatant injustice, will never be a safe place for authors like us.
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