A study in John Winchester by JohnWinchesterAppreciationBlog

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People seem to forget that everything he has ever done was for Sam and Dean. He gave up his life (figurative and literal) for them. Mary and his boys were his everything, but I guess people see what they want to see!

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*defends John Winchester to the ing grave and beyond*

you apologists are ing sad

I’m sorry I’m defending a character that is more than just black and white. I’m sorry John Winchester is more that just a ing 2 sided character.

You wanna know something? There has never been a moment in time that Dean and Sam said that John abused him. You wanna know something else? We don’t skim over his abuse. We don’t believe that John Winchester abused Sam and Dean.

I’m gonna tell you something really personal. My mom knows abuse. She knows what if feels like to get all that gross attention from her father. YOU. I may not know what abuse was like, but my mom does. You know what she told me? JOHN DIDN’T ABUSE SAM AND DEAN. YOU.

Guess what? People on John all the time. Use Bad Boys as a reference to John’s ty parenting? BUT Adam Glass literally stated on his twitter that it was a werewolf

Guess that’s out the window for you guys.

And Sam and Dean have seen werewolves. Unless you just wanna forget about Sam and the family killing a werewolf over the summer. 

or what Dean said in Heart

Wanna know something else?

John actually felt sorry over what he told to Sam when he told Sam to leave. GASP

but it’s true. Look.

Oh look, John had a heart, unlike what people think.

Oh, and maybe you’re forgetting what Sam ing said in the episode of Nightmares after the whole situation with Max Miller

Instead of turning to drinking heavily (unlike how some people claim. Unlike Bobby, who was shown he was canonly a big drinker, but that’s not the issue right now), John hunted demons. He ing even stated he didn’t want to. Didn’t wanna bring Dean and Sam into this.

and I even have a link to a small clip of what Sam told young!John about how Sam forgave his dad

Not to mention this moment

and before you say some about John being possessed there, no. this moment in time John wasn’t possessed.

because that moment in time comes from this clip. AKA the part where John SOLD HIS SOUL AND THE COLT TO MAKE SURE DEAN SURVIVED.

And there is also this gif I have saved, you know, of John getting out of hell and helping kill Azazel which goes along with this clip.

I’m sorry, but that looks like A ING PROUD SMILE ON HIS FACE. JOHN WAS PROUD OF HIS KIDS. WOW.

Which also ties in with this

GASP.

And then I have some more proof.

Like the whole scene where John and Sam make up

Or John hugging Sam and Dean when they meet again

Yep. They hate each other so much right there. Such anger.

And before I ing finish my rant and the wank that I’m putting out.

People on John for pulling Sam and Dean into the hunting life.

SAM HAS ING DEMON BLOOD IN HIM AND AZAZEL WAS KEEPING AN EYE ON SAM. SAM IS LUCIFER’S VESSEL. DEAN WAS MICHAEL’S.

If John HADN’T taught them how to survive and hunt, the two Winchester boys would have probably broken easier. Sam would probably have been the BoyKing and have been Lucifer’s meatsuit. Dean would have been Michael’s and the apocalypse would have happened and half the world would be dead. Simple. As. That.

Also, Crowley has more canon stuff about him abusing his son, while nowhere in the history of supernatural when people talked about John, has it been stated that John abused his boys.

So go yourself.

"We’re lucky we had Dad."  -Sam Winchester [01x14]

the Father’s power, and glory bright

True Facts About John Winchester 

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In all of his on-screen appearances in season 1 (and once in season 2), we never see him take a drink of alcohol.

Sam and Dean both yell at him in season 1. Sam even gets in his face and shoves him. He never raises his voice.

When Dean calls him out on not answering his phone, he backs down and apologizes.

When Meg calls him and taunts him by killing his friends, he immediately drops everything and walks himself into a trap in order to stop her.

The entire reason he kept sending Sam and Dean on hunts in season 1 was to keep them safe, because he was closing in on the demon and did not want them to get hurt trying to follow him. He was genuinely afraid for their safety when it came to Azazel.

When Sam and Dean disobey his orders and back him up, and demand to come with him and finish the fight against Azazel, he concedes and includes them in the hunt. Because he clearly respects their opinions and their skill as hunters and trusts them to back himself and each other up.

He swung by Stanford to check up on Sam and make sure he was safe, but never once tried to pull him back into hunting.

On the occasions that he had to leave his sons alone, they always had food, instructions to call somebody (Pastor Jim) if anything went wrong, and/or enough money to buy food.

After the Shtriga attacked Sam, John immediately abandoned the hunt, packed up, and drove his kids somewhere safe.

He was sentimental. He kept Sam’s soccer trophy and Dean’s first sawed-off.

Despite fighting with Sam over soccer vs. bowhunting, he obviously caved and signed Sam up for soccer.

He took his kids on a trip to the Grand Canyon.

He sacrificed his life and his 22-year revenge quest to the very demon he had been hunting that whole time in order to save Dean’s life, because his sons mean more to him than anything.

Yes, tumblr, he actually did tell Dean he was proud of him - it’s season 2, episode 1. No, that was not Azazel. It was John. Watch the ing episode.

He never broke in hell. He never tortured anybody to save himself the pain. He endured a hundred years of torture because he refused to hurt anyone else.

He was clearly a good enough person to be considered a ‘righteous man’, because Alastair had been trying to break him for that purpose before Dean made his deal.

He went from knowing nothing about the supernatural to becoming one of the greatest hunters to ever live.

Ash, who was pretty much a genius, was amazed by the way John put together patterns to track Azazel.

Sam outright said they were lucky to have John as their dad, and this was before he and John had their reunion and reconciliation.

There ARE references to John’s alcohol abuse. just because we don’t see him drink doesn’t mean he didn’t.

He doesn’t raise his voice…maybe he finally realized that Sam and Dean were right, or maybe he’s just more of a calm arguer. either way, the level of his voice says nothing about his character

even ty people can acknowledge when they’re in the wrong, so a few apologies don’t really mean much

I would argue that a desire to help people in general is not indicative of a person’s parenting abilities

he kept them away from the hunt to “keep them safe” but it also implies that he doesn’t trust them to handle themselves, and he’s not respecting THEIR desire to take down this thing that killed their mom. a good parent respect their children’s choices.

so he “let” them help on the hunt, but they had to INSIST. They needed to push their way in when John should have just respected their decision (and their abilities) and just let them help in the first place.

Do you know how much arguing it took for Sam to even get to Stanford? John felt like he had “lost” him and yeah, sure, wanted to make sure he was safe, but once again, he could have accepted that he could take care of himself. And as for “not bringing him back into hunting” he tried to KEEP him there and also put him there in the first place.

There are instances of them NOT having enough (or healthy) food/ money for food, and they really shouldn’t have been left alone at all.

yes, he abandoned the hunt, but he also yelled at Dean. He put so much pressure on such a young boy and then got pissed when he couldn’t handle it. that’s not a good dad.

sentimental does not equal good parent.

He CAVED. he should have (once again) respected his son’s decision right away and jut let him play soccer without fighting about it.

oh wow, one trip to a landmark when they were probably in th earea for a hunt anyway. someone give this man an award

One instance of sacrifice does not a good parent make. He was wracked with guilt because Dean’s coma was his fault.

he told him he was proud of him ONE TIME! once again, that doesn’t make him a good parent

because he dedicated his life to saving people. He was a strong man, doesn’t mean he was a good dad.

righteous man or not, he sometimes sacrificed his kid’s happiness for his morals.

I don’t see how being a good hunter makes him a good man/ parent

ash was impressed with his hunting skills but knew nothing of his parenting skills

John was the only Dad Sam ever had, and he came to this realization after seeing an actually abusive parent. so yeah.

John may not be as bad as people make him out to be but he was still a ty parent and I won’t accept any excuses for him. I’m sorry.

1. I never said John never drank. I said we never see John drink. Which is a fact. I address speculation about John’s drinking in this post:http://statler-and-winchester.tumblr.com/post/91404736342/john-winchesters-drinking

2. It says that John isn’t the raging violent that fandom likes to paint him as.

3. Yes, let’s just ignore the times when John owns up to his mistakes and tries to make amends. Okay. That’s totally fair.

4. It shows that John put people before his ‘revenge quest’. Meg threatened his chance to go after Azazel. He was willing to lay his life down to protect people even if it meant he would not get to see his quest through.

5. A GOOD PARENT IS WORRIED ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THEIR KIDS. John said EXACTLY THIS when Sam said he didn’t have to worry about them - “I’m your father, of course I do.” John was fairly sure he would DIE in the fight against Azazel so he didn’t want Sam and Dean involved at all. Because he didn’t want his children to die. This is ing ridiculous that you see this as a negative thing, I’m ing sorry. Every parent sees their kids as their kids no matter what. Even if they’re 30 years old a good parent still has the desire to protect them and keep them safe. Sam and Dean were 22 and 26, of ing course John isn’t going to want them jumping in on what he sees as a suicide mission against the most powerful demon he has ever encountered.

6. They had to insist because of everything I said in point 5. John wanted to keep his kids safe from the most powerful demon he had ever come across. But if they’re going to trail him anyway then he might as well work with them for a stronger and safer team, rather than have them charge into the fight in a way that could turn things ugly.

7. John signed all the paperwork needed to get Sam into Stanford in the first place (see Nevermore). The only reason John got Sam into hunting in the first place was for his protection. They had no other choice - their family was targeted by demons. Was he supposed to leave his sons unprepared when Azazel came knocking the next time? You are ignoring the circumstances that John had to deal with. Training Sam and Dean as hunters was absolutely the right call in these circumstances.

8. Show me where they don’t have enough food. In Something Wicked there is enough for both of them to eat. In the ty boys home episode, John leaves Dean with enough money which Dean then loses through his own stupidity in a poker game. That isn’t John’s fault that Dean lost it, that’s Dean’s fault for being an idiot sixteen year old.

9. In Something Wicked they should not have been left alone, no. But Dean disobeyed his dad directly when all he had to do was sit in the motel room. He had Pastor Jim to call if he needed help. It wasn’t a complicated situation, so it wasn’t like John got mad at Dean for something Dean couldn’t understand (cause that would be a move). Again this is a case of ty circumstances. We see MULTIPLE TIMES that John would find caretakers for Sam and Dean when he couldnt be around (Pastor Jim, Bobby, the babysitter from Swap Meat). But when there’s no one in town he can trust, it’s either let innocent people die or rely on his son.

10. People seem to think he didn’t love his sons. A guy who didn’t love his sons would not keep mementos of their childhood.

11. So because John stopped and re-assessed the situation and decided that yeah it was okay for Sam to play soccer he’s a ty guy? So basically you’re saying he should make the right call the first time, every time, and that if he doesn’t he’s a bag. lol ok. He is a human being in a situation that is not normal. He is stuck in a world where monsters are targeting his family. He has no steady job and still needs to provide for his sons. Maybe he didn’t have the money to enroll Sam in soccer at first. Maybe he was worried that some demon or someone would get to Sam through the team, because it’s putting Sam in an environment filled with strangers that he can’t trust. John haters always assume that John did just because he’s a hardass jerk without stopping to consider the situation he was in and the mentality that he would have going into it. This dude knew nasty supernatural was out there looking for a way to get to his family.

12. People see one instance of a lip quiver and assume John beat the out of his kids, but one instance of him doing something fun with his kids isn’t enough to entertain the possibility that hey maybe he did other fun things with them too. Jesus ing christ.

13. Right the only time John ever did anything good for his kids was because he felt guilty ok. It couldn’t be that it was because he loved Dean. It couldn’t be that it was because he put his children’s lives above the revenge quest that everyone seems to think was the only thing that mattered to him. And what the is this bull about it being John’s fault that Dean was in a coma!? AZAZEL ATTACKED HIM. A DEMON DROVE THE TRUCK INTO THE IMPALA. ing hell, JOHN WAS THE FIRST PERSON TO OVERCOME DEMONIC POSSESSION BY WILLPOWER - FOR DEAN - AND IT WAS ONE OF THE STRONGEST DEMONS ON THE SHOW. I suppose you’ll blame John for letting Sam and Dean join the hunt when just a few paragraphs ago you were calling him a for not wanting them to join the hunt, huh? And I’m just suuure this is literally the only time John ever sacrificed anything for his kids. Because one instance of them being by themselves in Something Wicked means he left them alone ALL THE TIME FOR WEEKS. But one instance of sacrifice is just that, only one, right?

14. Again, you literally think this is the only time John ever told Dean he was proud of him in his entire 26 years of life? When there are ing YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS of their lives together that we never got to see? You honestly ing think that? WHY IS ONE INSTANCE OF A BAD THING ENOUGH TO ESTABLISH A PATTERN OF BEHAVIOUR BUT ONE INSTANCE OF A GOOD THING IS NOT.

15. This is, again, refuting the point that John was some abusive dickbag. People think John beat his kids. ing no, the guy who wouldn’t even torture souls in hell - most of whom were probably there for being rapists and murderers or whatever the - was not going to lay a ing hand on the kids he loved more than his own ing life.

16. and 17. I’m not even ing talking about him being a parent here! I’m talking about him being awesome. He ing built himself up from nothing in the hunting world and had a brilliant mind. Stop ing relating literally every point to him being a parent because it’s not. It’s literally just a statement of fact of something that was on the show.

18. If the later seasons are to be believed (I hate these new writers though, they are hacks, so whatever), Sam spent a significant amount of time with Bobby before that point. So y’know. There’s another comparison. Bobby “Just ‘cause it kills your liver don’t mean it ain’t medicine” Singer.

People need to stop judging John based on a real world scenario. He was not in the real world. If he was in a real world without demons and monsters hunting his family, then sure, he would not be a good dad. But he was ing trying to protect his family from that might kill them in horrible horrible ways, and he had to learn how to do it along the way, on his own, while raising two kids. Sorry that he couldn’t take Sam and Dean to the fair all the time but he was too busy trying to make sure ing Azazel and his minions weren’t on their trail. If he did not train Sam and Dean, if he gave them up to someone else, they would be dead or permanent archangel vessels and the world would be exploded. End of ing story. Without John’s training, rocks fall and everybody dies.

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Sam canonically had straight As in high school despite moving around so much. Now, I’ve switched schools midyear once and it’s incredibly difficult — you’re absolutely gonna have missed stuff at the new school. Sam must have had to try just a thousand percent. Teach himself stuff so he could write essays and pass tests on things the rest of the class had been taught months ago, when he lived in another state.

How did he get the ability to do that, to self teach? I postulate that although John didn’t intend it, he actually gave Sam the skills to do that. He encouraged the boys to self teach to learn hunting skills and dead languages and lore. Sam learned from John how to absorb knowledge because it was necessary, and under his own impetus not because a teacher was teaching it to him. How to seek out, study, and quickly gain a high level of mastery of a vast array of esoteric knowledge. Finding the resources to do so on his own. That’s a huge skill. So while the hunting life created this problem in the first place, it also gave him the skills to handle it.

asofterwinchester:

I just want you to know that I am so proud of you. (x)

clairvoyantsam:

☣ We all have our demons ☣

I own nothing.